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LMS Wagon Kits

The London Midland and Scottish Railway had a large number of open wagons and vans. Its network included many of the major manufacturing areas and large cities, making goods traffic an important part of its business. Formed from the Midland Railway, LNWR, Caledonian Railway and smaller railways at the "Grouping" in 1923, the Midland probably had most influence over LMS wagon design.
Our range at present only includes one pre-Group kit (C84 MR Van), but we may introduce kits for LNWR one and four plank open wagons in 2017.

C8 LMS 16 ton Steel Mineral Wagon Kit

LMS 16ton mineral   LMS 16 ton mineral wagon

2,599 wagons were built in 1946-7 to D2109. Door types varied and there is a choice of pressed or welded side and end doors in the kit.
20,000 more wagons similar to this type were built to the order of the Ministry of War Transport, later becoming BR D1/102. Most of these had small top doors above the usual side ones
The 1970s re-bodied BR wagons were very similar, although the bottom edge of the side panels was slightly rounded on most wagons. None of these had top doors.
Can be modelled with the side door open in a goods yard (the welded door would be best, as the pressed door does not have the pressed detail on the back).
The immediate LMS predecessor to these, D2102 7 plank end door, may be introduced later.

C9 LMS 12 ton "All-steel" Van Kit

LMS 12 ton Van

D1828 "Gloucester" style body. 1,000 of these vans were built during 1929-30. 300 were built as shown by Gloucester RC&W. The mouldings can be modified to the other wagon builders' door styles – flat diagonal door strapping, or no door strapping.

C47 LMS/BR Bogie Rail Wagon Kit

LMS Bogie Rail Wagon

A kit for the later type of LMS Bogie Rail Wagon (LMS code "Borail BBP") - 100 wagons were built. BR built further batches of wagons to LMS Diagram P19E, with planked floor and LMS 'coach style' Bogies, from 1949 to 1953 - a further 162 wagons were built. Wagons of this type ran from 1940 until the 1990s.
A couple were at Peterborough in March 1999.
With a fair bit of kit-bashing it is possible to make an LMS or BR 55ton Armour Plate wagon from one of these kits.
Note: the kit uses the solebar moulding from the BR Salmon kits. The detail on this varies from the LMS solebar.

C57 12ton High-sided Goods Wagon Kit

LMS 12 ton open wagon

D1667 unfitted 5 plank open wagon, steel underframe (9' 0" wb./ 17' 6" oh.).
Whilst nowhere near as numerous as the wood solebar type, there were 8,000 of these wagons built between 1924 and 1930. Kits produced from April 2014 have a modified end that includes the headstock (bufferbeam).

C58 12ton High-sided Goods Wagon Kit

LMS 12 ton open wagon

D1666 unfitted 5 plank open wagon, wood underframe (9' 0" wb./ 17' 6" oh.).
Over 54,000 of these wagons were built between 1923 and 1930. Some lasted until the mid-1960s. Many photos of goods yards that have merchandise wagons are likely to include one or more of these wagons, regardless of region (although less so on the GWR).

C80 12ton Wood Bodied Van Kit (Unventilated, "Wood ends")

LMS 12 ton van

D1664 unfitted type, steel underframe (9' 0" wb./ 17' 6" oh.). These were a modified version of the MR D664 van (see C84 below), the differences being reversal of the diagonal side strapping, and a backwards step in the reduction of the wheelbase to 9 feet. It may be that this was suitable for use in yards having wagon turntables. 2.544 vans were built between 1924 and 1926. Some vans remained in use until the 1960s.

C84 Midland Railway 12ton Wood Bodied Van Kit

M R 12 ton van

D664 unfitted type, steel underframe (10' 0" wb./ 17' 6" oh.). With "one-piece" underframe.
Built between 1911 & 1921, these vans were the forerunners of the LMS standard vans. There were also vans with this body that were built as grain hoppers in 1922. Some of these were used by the Port of Bristol Authority, whilst some of the ordinary vans had an extended life at MOD sites.
The Buckinghamshire Railway Centre has one of these vans, but their Stockbook says it is Diagram 1830 and has a 9' 0" wheelbase. It seem from the picture that the wheelbase is 10ft. and not 9ft. There is no Midland Diagram 1830, although there was an LMS D1830 van, but these had angled end corner plates (and no diagonal outside brace).
Midland Railway D663A wagon was in our range in the early 1980s. The D204 wagon was in the list of forthcoming kits at the same time, but never actually appeared.

C86 LMS 6/8ton Meat Van Kit

L M S meat van

D1670 type built in 1927 & 1930.

C87 LMS 6/8ton Fish Van

L M S 6 ton  fish van

D1885 unfitted type, built between 1927 & 1930.
Originally, full NPCS* Crimson Lake lined livery was applied, but later repainting omitted the lining.
* NPCS = Non-passenger coaching stock.

C92 LMS 12ton Van Kit (Ventilated, "Wood ends")

LMS 12 ton ventilated van

This early type of ventilated van, D1676, built 1924-28, was very similar to the D1664 vans, but the end design was the same as the Meat Van. There were 2,956 of this type of van.

C93 LMS 12ton One Plank Open Wagon Kit

L M S one plank open

One thousand of these wagons were built to D1986 in 1938,and used for carrying containers, large crates & for use as runners under overhanging loads. The kit is now available. With one-piece floor/solebars.

C101 LMS 12ton Van Kit (Ventilated, "Steel ends")

LMS 12 ton ventilated van    LMS 12 ton ventilated van

With "pressed steel" ends. This type of ventilated van, D1832A, built in 1929-30 & 1930-31, had a similar side design to the earlier wood-ended vans of D1664, but had pressed steel corrugated ends. These were folded round onto the sides, and the lower half was angled on the side (see illustration). There were 3,450 vans built to this diagram.

C102 LMS 12ton Van Kit (Unventilated, "Steel ends")

Model of an LMS 12 ton van    Model of an LMS 12 ton van

With "pressed steel" ends. This early type of steel-ended van, D1663, built 1924-28, was very similar to the D1832A vans, but lacked the end vent & roof ventilators. For some reason the headstocks (bufferbeam) on these vans had angled ends, unlike D1832A on which they were square-ended. There were 1,600 vans built to this diagram.

C113 LMS 12ton Roadstone Wagon Kit

Model of an LMS Roadstone Wagon

100 of these wagons were built to D2131 in 1947/48. THey were used to carry roadstone from quarries in four removeable containers which resembled the body used on side tipping narrow gauge skip wagons. Those on these wagons were flat bottomed and the full width of the wagon. Although it seems that the intention was to transfer the skips to road vehicles near their destination, the pictures of them in use show the skips being emptied into a tipped lorry beside the wagons. These pictures may have been staged for publicity purposes though, and involved the use of a mobile crane, plus ropes and pulleys to tip the skip over. A more sensible use was transporting limestone from quarries in Derbyshire to Sugar Beet factories in East Anglia, where it was used in the process of making sugar. Presumably these locations had an easy way ot tipping the skips.
The kit will include some etched parts, such as the horizontal plates between each skip and tie bars for the vacuum brake fitted wagons. The vacuum brake cylinder may also be included. Available later.

Prototype wagons:

SS Ashley steamship

Some LMS and LNER wagons at the seaside. The S.S.Ashley berthed at the North Quay, Newhaven Harbour in the 1930s. Only one definite SR wagon is visible (second from the right).
This is from a composite photo, hence the odd perspective.
Another picture of the "Ashley here on the Dean Goods site.